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Difterite
ed il Vaccino per la Difterite:
Visionate cio' che si afferma sul
vaccino per
la difterite (gravi
effetti collaterali) utilizzato (con una modifica
della tossina = crm197) anche per la cura del
cancro dal dott.
Buzzi:
http://www.crm197.it/corsera5102008.jpg
La
Difterite
è una malattia contagiosa delle prime
vie respiratorie è provocata da un
batterio specifico, il
Corynebacterium diphtheriae,
(NdR: ci dicono i
medici allopati, ma non e' cosi) la cui
scoperta si deve a
Edwin Klebs nel
1883,
con la caratteristica di creare
placche sulle
mucose, particolarmente delle vie aeree.
La malattia Si manifesta con mal di gola
accompagnato da placche bianche o
grigio-verdi, malessere generale, febbre
alta. In seguito, dà problemi
respiratori anche gravi e si caratterizza
specificamente con a livello topico,
formazione di pseudomembrane molli di
colore grigio, costituite da
leucociti e
fibrina capaci di agglomerare i
microbi patogeni.
La difterite è una malattia molto grave,
come tutte le malattie
infiammatorie,
MALCURATE, che può colpire gli organi.
In particolare può danneggiare cervello,
cuore e reni o il sistema nervoso. I
pazienti muoiono nel 10 per cento dei
casi.
A livello
generale proviene da un processo di
intossicazione +
infiammazione; essa è una malattia
con caratteristiche stagionali,
specialmente diffusa nei climi
temperati.
Pero' quello che le autorita'
"sanitarie" NON vogliono
dire e' che la Difterite e' frutto di alterazione
della
flora batterica intestinale =
disbiosi = carenze
nutrizionali (malnutrizione = mancanza di
magnesio +
silice
organica + alterazione del
ciclo dello
zolfo)
in soggetti con
Terreno
disordinato ed
immunodepressi da vaccinazioni precedenti e/o da
mutazioni
genetiche ereditate da genitori vaccinati ! il batterio e'
una cosa assolutamente secondaria che si trova solo come
conseguenza della malattia, ma non e' la causa !!
I sintomi
comprendono mal di gola, febbre e un rigonfiamento dei noduli linfatici
del collo. Nel corso della malattia si forma una pellicola spessa sulla
superficie delle tonsille e della gola e che può estendersi fino alla
trachea e ai polmoni. Questa membrana può interferire con la respirazione
e con la deglutizione. Nei casi più gravi potrebbe bloccare completamente
le vie respiratorie.
Altre complicanze comprendono l'infiammazione del muscolo cardiaco
(miocardite) e la paralisi dei muscoli della gola e degli occhi, oltre che
di quelli usati durante le respirazione. Questo può risultare fatale.
La difterite viene comunemente curata
(dalla medicina ufficiale) con gli
antibiotici. Sono altresì necessari il riposo a letto e
un'alimentazione abbondante (tramite fleboclisi o catetere nasale in caso
di difficoltà alla deglutizione).
La sua diffusione può quindi essere prontamente
controllata seguendo attentamente delle semplici regole igienico-sanitarie.
I casi di difterite sono rari. Nel 1980 ne furono
registrati solamente cinque negli Stati Uniti. Un
notevole declino della malattia era comunque già in atto
molto prima della scoperta del vaccino.
Negli Stati Uniti si registrò tra il 1900 e il 1930
(periodo precedente all'introduzione del vaccino) un
calo del 90% dei casi documentati di mortalità da
difterite.
Alcuni ricercatori attribuiscono questo declino alla
maggior consapevolezza alimentare e igienico-sanitaria.
In Germania la
vaccinazione
antidifterica
obbligatoria
venne introdotta nel 1939. Dopo di essa i casi di
difterite
nel Paese
salirono vertiginosamente fino a 150.000.
Inizialmente la Francia scartò il vaccino dopo essere stata testimone dei
disastri causati negli altri Paesi; dopo l'invasione tedesca fu invece
costretta a sottoporre all'inoculazione tutta la popolazione: entro il
1943 i casi di difterite erano arrivati a quasi
47.000.
Nello stesso periodo si registrarono soltanto
50
casi nella vicina
Norvegia,
che aveva respinto la vaccinazione.
In un rapporto ufficiale sulla
difterite del 1975, il Bureau of Biologics e la FDA (Food and Drug
Administration) arrivarono alla conclusione che la tossina difterica
"non è tanto efficace, come agente immunizzante, quanto si
credeva".
I ricercatori ammisero che la difterite poteva insorgere anche nei
soggetti vaccinati e osservarono che "la durata dell'immunità
indotta dalla tossina (...) rimane una faccenda aperta".
Il
50% di tutte le persone che
contraggono la difterite
erano state gia' vaccinate..... I
n
un'epidemia a Chicago nel 1969 il Dipartimento della Sanità rese noto che
il 37,5% delle persone colpite erano state sottoposte alla vaccinazione o
presentavano l'esistenza accertata di totale immunità alla malattia.
Un rapporto su un'altra epidemia rivelò invece che il 60% del totale dei
casi e il 33% dei casi fatali riguardava persone vaccinate.
Difterite: Anche in questo caso vaccinare
tutti per una malattia che “non c’è” produce più effetti
collaterali che prevenzione. Nei paesi in cui il vaccino
viene poco o per niente usato, la malattia non è
presente, mentre appare in paesi super vaccinati (come
la Russia ) se c’è fame e freddo; inoltre
non è sradicabile.
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Il Vaccino per la DIFTERITE e per il
TETANO e'
costituito dal tossoide tetanico (Clostridium
tetanis)
+ quella difterica purificate ed adsorbite su
idrossido di alluminio;
i produttori del
vaccino "dicono" che sia stato purificato e inattivato,
ma in realta' in certe condizioni febbrili e di
disbiosi intestinali importanti, puo' rendersi
altamente virulento, proliferare e rendere anche
autistico e/o
epilettico il soggetto vaccinato; in altri casi puo'
indurre anche la morte.
La Difterite cosi' come il Tetano sono quindi malattie.
Difterite dicono sia dovuta a un batterio ed il Tetano
ad una tossina indotta da un microrganismo che
solitamente entra nell'organismo attraverso una ferita
ed infetta l'organismo SOLO quando esso e'
seriamente debilitato dalle cause sopra descritte. Il
tetano causa forti contrazioni muscolari che possono
portare anche a morte.
Oggi in Italia si hanno meno di un centinaio di casi di
tetano, il 90 % persone anziane.
La vaccinazione contro il tetano, associata a quella
contro la difterite, in Italia e' ancora obbligatoria
dal 1968.
Dati del
Bugiardino del vaccino:
Composizione: Il vaccino è
costituito dalle anatossine
tetanica e difterica purificate ed adsorbite su
idrossido di alluminio.
Tra gli eccipienti sono presenti: sodio
etilmercurio-tiosalicilato,
idrossido di alluminio,
sodio cloruro.
La vaccinazione antidifterica è obbligatoria in
Italia dal 1939. Successivamente, dal 1968, è
stata resa obbligatoria anche la vaccinazione
antitetanica e le due vaccinazioni sono
effettuate congiuntamente (DT).
Il vaccino TETANO/DIFTERITE (Td) adulti (anche
per bambini di età superiore ai 7 anni) è
composto dalle due anatossine difterica e
tetanica.
Effetti collaterali:
- Reazioni in sede di iniezione (rossore,
gonfiore, indurimento, dolore);
- Raramente febbricola o febbre, di breve
durata;
-
Reazioni allergiche generalizzate;
-
Reazioni tipo-Arthus in caso di ripetuti
richiami.
-
vanno ricordate le piuttosto comuni reazioni
locali con bruciore, eritema, nodulo e
generali, quali febbre e nausea. quelle di tipo
immunologico con starnuti, dispnea, orticaria,
prurito, angioedema, shock; più tardive sono
le reazioni ritardate tipo eruzione vescicolare
in sede di iniezione sarebbero riferite
piuttosto ad una ipersensibilità al
conservante sale di mercurio (thiomerosal).
Le reazioni immunologiche sono più frequenti
dopo le iniezioni di richiamo e sono in rapporto
con la elevatezza del titolo di antitossina
sierica presente in circolo. Altre
manifestazioni sono possibili dopo ripetute
iniezioni di altri vaccini nell'ambito della
stessa vaccinazione
esavalente.
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ed altre, vedi qui sotto.
Controindicazioni:
- i soggetti che dopo la prima somministrazione
del vaccino DT abbiano manifestato effetti
collaterali, non dovranno assumere le
successive dosi.
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Reazioni di
ipersensibilità sono possibili soprattutto nei
soggetti che hanno ricevuto diversi richiami di
vaccino antitetanico, così come va tenuto
presente il rischio di disturbi neurologici
post-vaccinali.
vedi anche:
http://www.omeopatia.org/download/confalonieri-D-06-07-tesi.pdf
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Vaccini TDAP
secondo linee guida
L'Advisory
Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) ha disposto
le linee guida sulla prevenzione di pertosse, tetano e
difterite durante e dopo la gravidanza e nel neonato.
I dati attualmente disponibili non dimostrano a
sufficienza la sicurezza dei vaccino (trivalente)
difto-tetanico-pertossico acellulare (TDAP) nelle donne
gravide, nel feto o ai fini degli esiti della
gravidanza.
Essi inoltre non indicano se gli anticorpi materni
transplacentari indotti dal vaccino garantiscano una
protezione precoce contro la pertosse nel neonato o
interferiscano con la risposta immune del neonato ai
vaccini pediatrici somministrati di routine.
Francia - 13/06/08 Les Echos online, Herald
Tribune - Sospeso vaccino di Sanofi Pasteur
MSD:
Le autorita' sanitarie francesi hanno sospeso,
temporaneamente, la distribuzione del vaccino DTPolio (difterite,
tetano,
polio) in seguito ad un
aumento significativo di segnalazioni di reazioni
allergiche dall'inizio
dell'anno; la Sanofi ha immediatamente ritirato i lotti
immessi sul mercato per misura "precauzionale",... cosi
hanno detto i dirigenti della Sanofi.
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Fears over 'secret' MMR jabs report
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(By Lorraine Fraser, Medical Correspondent)
The
measles vaccine is the focus of renewed controversy after the Department
of Health refused to release a report claiming to show it is safe.
A
US congressional committee investigating autism and links with vaccines
last month asked the author to hand over the full study, including
unpublished data, which has been criticised by some medical experts.
London professor Brent Taylor, who was giving evidence on his research,
said he would need to discuss this first with the Department of Health,
which funded the work. Now Public Health Minister Yvette Coooper has told
the Commons it was not 'usual' for 'third parties' to re-analyse such
data.
Congressman
Dan Burton, who chairs the US committee, is asking Tony Blair to
intercede.
The study by Professor Taylor, of the Royal Free and University College
Medical School, is quoted by governments to allay parents' worries. It
detected a rise in the number of children with autism in North London, but
said this began before 1998 when MMR became a routine vaccine.
But the study, published in The Lancet, has been criticised for not making
it clear that older children
who were immunised in a catch-up campaign were included, in which case an
earlier rise in autism rates might be explained.
Walter Spitzer, professor of epidemiology at McGill University in
Montreal, said that the study was 'uninterpretable due to its inferior
scientific quality'. Last month the Mail on Sunday reported that Dublin
pathologist John O'Leary had found the measles virus in the guts of
autistic children suffering from a bowel disorder.
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We often hear reports blaming low
vaccination coverage for the outbreak in the USSR. But the below article
suggests this is not the case. A snip from the full-text of the below
article "However, an estimated 90% of children were fully vaccinated
with four or more doses of diphtheria toxoid by the time they entered
school."
If I'm not mistaken, 90% would probably be higher than vaccination
coverage levels in Australia. And yet we don't have mass outbreaks of
Diptheria. Poor Adult vaccination status is also blamed, but adult
boosters of diptheria in developed countries are always notoriously low.
Methinks
this has more to do with political and social upheaval,
poverty, unsanitary conditions etc..
Seb.
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http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00022128.htm
MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep 1993 Nov
5;42(43):840-1,847
Diphtheria outbreak--Russian Federation, 1990-1993.
Despite
high levels of vaccination coverage against diphtheria, an
ongoing outbreak of diphtheria
has affected parts of the Russian Federation since 1990;
as of August 31, 1993, 12,865 cases had been reported.
This report summarizes epidemiologic information about
this outbreak for January 1990-August 1993, and is based
on reports from public health officials in the Russian
Federation.
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The Lancet (Volume 353, Number 9150 30 January
1999)
Risk of diphtheria among schoolchildren in the Russian
Federation in relation to time since last vaccination.
Quote:
In
1993, the Russian Federation reported 15229 cases of
diphtheria, a 25-fold increase over the 603
cases reported in 1989.1 The incidence rate among children
7-10 years of age (15·7 per 100000)
was twice that of adults aged 18 years or over (7·9 per
100000).4 81% of the affected children
aged 7-10 years had been vaccinated with at least a
primary series of diphtheria toxoid, and most
had received the first booster recommended to be given 12
months after completion of the primary
series.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10326290&dopt=Abstract
Br Med Bull 1998;54(3):635-45
Resurgent
diphtheria--are we safe ?
Eskola J, Lumio J, Vuopio-Varkila J National Public Health
Institute, Helsinki, Finland.
Diphtheria, one of the major causes of morbidity and
mortality in the past, seemed nearly eliminated from
industrialized countries, thanks to improved hygienic
conditions and large scale vaccinations. In 1990, a large
epidemic started in Eastern Europe, mainly in Russia and
Ukraine, with over 70,000 cases reported within a 5 year
period.
The main factors leading to the epidemic included low
immunization coverage among infants and children, waning
immunity to diphtheria among adults, and profound social
changes in the former Soviet Union.
The possibility of new virulence factors in the epidemic
strain has not yet been
ruled out. Even though immunity among adults is far from
complete in Western Europe, the
epidemic did not spread there. The main reason for
this might be the good immune status of children
and lack of social turbulence favouring the spread of
infection.
Several countries have also taken preventive measures,
which may also have played a role in
protection against the potential epidemic.
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Vaccination Information
PO Box 43, Hull HU1 1AA, UK Tel: 01482 562079
Email:
yvonne@vaccinfo.karoo.co.uk Web:
http://www.vaccinfo.karoo.net
We
had a request for info about the current diphtheria epidemic in old USSR.
I've sent them some overviews from a web search - "diphtheria
increasing cost not enough vaccination" type stuff. It seems its
probably due to sudden drop in living standards and probably linked to
compulsory vaccination by previous regime.
Wondered if you'd heard anything ? best wishes;
Paddy
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Here
are some extracts from an article by Hilary Butler...
WAVES Vol. 11 No. 2 p.21
Diphtheria by Hilary Butler
Common environmental factors throughout
history which have greatly increased the incidence and severity of
diphtheria are shown in the following quotes
"There is no doubt that exposure to sewage emanation is a fruitful
source of diphtheria...the statistics of the association between the two
are very positive."
(Quain 1894, in Beddow-Bayly, 1939,
p.105)
"shows in interesting and conclusive fashion the definitive effect of
school buildings, their construction and sanitation, on the spread of
diphtheria. The highest incidence was observed in those schools
where sanitation is most deficient and ventilation and lighting the least
satisfactory. The brightest and airiest school showed the lowest
incidence, and the incidence throughout all the schools placed them in
exact order of sanitary virtue. Moreover, the incidence indicated
the schools where malnutrition in the children is most conspicuous."
(Medical World, 1931, p. 627.)
Even in America, there were those who recognised the lessons of the
decrease of diphtheria prior to the use of a vaccine by saying.
"The eradication of diphtheria will not come through the serum
treatment of patients, by the immunization of the well, or through the
accurate clinical and laboratory diagnosis of the case and the carrier
followed by quarantine; rather it will be attained through the mass
sanitary protection of the populace subconsciously practised by the people
at all times." (JAMA, 1922, p. 682.)
With regard to diphtheria in New Zealand, it is interesting in the light
of the recent Auckland case, to note that during the period 1879 - 85,
diphtheria in the Christchurch area was particularly severe. The
majority of cases occurred in areas where there were either no sewers, or
where the sewerage systems had grave sanitary defects. The water
supplies were heavily contaminated, and the living conditions were beyond
description. (Maclean, 1964).
Why is the issue of sewage important? There are many historical
instances of sewage being relevant to the spread of disease, but even
today very few textbooks mention this. A few days before the recent
Auckland case, storm water had flooded the sewer system, resulting in raw
sewage flowing onto the property of the family concerned.
The Public
Health Authority refused to investigate this potential causal factor.
It could well be that the case had nothing to do with the parents' holiday
in Bali, and everything to do with the presence of diphtheria from North
Shore carriers in the sewage. Two years ago the Americans discovered
that toxicogenic diphtheria has had continual undetected circulation for
decades throughout areas in the United States and Canada. It
remained undetected because they never looked for it, assuming it was
eradicated.
The same situation could quite likely exist here.
The recent Russian epidemic was caused, we were told, by low levels of
childhood immunity (WHO, July 1993).
But the majority of cases were
in adults who had gone through a compulsory vaccination system that
mandated 5 injections of diphtheria vaccine. According to the old
philosophy, these people should have been immune for life.
They now
realise that immunity to disease requires 2 things: repeat exposure to
antigen, and a healthy, stress-free body.
Why do they say the epidemic was caused by inadequate childhood
vaccination? By 1993, the situation was quite different and
diphtheria is only now significantly reduced.
"Reported nationwide coverage among children aged 12-23 months
increased from 72.6% in 1992 to 79.2% in 1993. During 1992-1993 at
least 90% of children <5 years had received a primary series with
diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine (DTP), or pediatric
(DTY) or adult (Td) formulation diphtheria and tetanus toxoids, and
approximately 80%, had received at least one booster." (MMWR,
1995, pg. 178).
Immunisation in Russia in the communist era was compulsory for children,
with contraindications determined by the medical profession, not the
parents. With 'perestroika' and choice, there was the start of
anti-vaccine movement, led, ironically, by doctors not laypeople, which
contributed to a slight fall in the vaccination levels. But these
levels were still higher than those reported for the USA in 1990 and for
Australia in 1995.
In the USA, they are at last admitting that there are several other
factors involved in the Russian diphtheria epidemic.
This is because
high level transmission between adults was demonstrated in groups
characterized by overcrowding, low hygiene levels, and high contact rates
e.g.: the homeless and patients in neuropsychiatric hospitals (Vitek and
Wharton).
One important factor conducive to increased bacterial
transmission was the deficient or lacking public health facilities,
including routine access to functioning faucets for hand washing.
The other group looked at was the military, because 1.4% of Russia is
armed. Recruits (who have already had 5 vaccinations - 3 primary
doses, a 4th at about 2 yrs, and a 5th at 6 yrs; after 1980 Td was given
at 11 yrs of age) were not revaccinated against diphtheria until 1990.
Following outbreaks of diphtheria spread by the military in Kovrov
District in 1983 and 1987, investigations in military units in various
parts of Russia found carrier rates of toxigenic diptheria of up to 5.0%.
There is nothing unusual about high rates of disease in military
establishments. Extensive reading of military medical literature
reveals some fairly callous reports about the necessity for toughening up
recruits so that they have immunity to everything, and in the event of
real stress, real war, they are unlikely to succumb.
In reality the majority of diphtheria in Russia has occurred in specific
sub-groups. Refugees or persons displaced by internal conflict, the
homeless, alcoholics, the military, and people living hand to mouth
attempting to feed children.
A very high proportion of cases were in
women, a factor not well understood by the medical fraternity, but
self-evident to those with common sense. Women (mothers) will feed
the rest of the family before themselves. Interestingly though, one
study reports that the death rate has been excessive in only one group -
that of alcoholics. Their death rate was 25.7%, compared with the
death rate of "normal" Russians of around 1%, despite the
stresses associated with life in Russia.
The myth that vaccination is the primary factor that eliminated diphtheria
worldwide is highlighted by the evolving situation in Russia (and other
countries) today. Graphs of diphtheria from any country show what
are called "epidemic cycles".
The latest Russian cycle is
the normal duration for cycles seen pre-vaccination era; so to say that
vaccination has stopped diphtheria in Russia is highly debatable.
The Lancet (1996) reported that in 1995 the Ukraine had re-vaccinated the
entire population and that diphtheria continued unabated. The
vaccine was tested and found to be fine.
Medical literature has always recognised that social and economic
dislocation has been the primary friend of diphtheria, along with other
diseases. Literature published before the dissolution of stability
in Russia makes that clear:
"A serious dislocation of the economy or society of the United States
might well increase the incidence of diphtheria as well as other
infectious diseases." (Biol. and Clinic. Basis of Infect.Dis,
1985, pg. 230).
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The Observer Front page Story index
A father's search for the truth. When his son was
diagnosed with autism, David Thrower was astonished to
learn that there was no official data available on how
common the disease was. So he decided to find out for
himself - with extraordinary results. Melanie McFadyean
reports
Tuesday March 28, 2000
David Thrower has photos, as any parent does, of his son
Oliver as a toddler, a bright little fellow.
Then he produces a photo of Oliver at 15 months and
something is wrong: the child's eyes are blank. That was
when David and his partner first noticed their boy's
decline, one that coincided with a measles vaccination.
Then at the age of four Oliver had the measles, mumps and
rubella (MMR) jab, after which all his skills, says
Thrower, "dissolved". He screamed, became
destructive, and attacked his parents and other children.
Now aged 12, he has no speech at all, can't feed or dress
himself, and is hyperactive. Oliver had become autistic,
one of a growing number of children diagnosed with this
condition. But Thrower did not invite me to his house in
Warrington to talk about immunisation. Although he thinks
vaccinations may be one cause of autism, he suspects there
are other environmental and genetic factors that could
play a part - and he wants to know what they are.
It may be too late for Oliver, but he hopes he can make a
difference for other children.
"The point is to find out the truth, to get to the
heart of it. There's a terrible reluctance to look into
the prevalence and causes of autism, but science isn't
advanced by closed minds," he says.
Three years ago, Thrower gave up his job as a transport
planner to look after Oliver and be a "house husband"
while his partner continued to work full time. Aged 49, he
is remarkably fit and energetic for someone whose son's
hyperactivity ensures that he rarely gets an uninterrupted
night's sleep.
He spends all his spare time researching the causes of
autism and its prevalence after discovering, to his
amazement, that there was almost no official data.
"Don't make it a sob story," he says genially:
he doesn't want this to be a sentimental tale of a
broken-hearted man.
Looking at the yards of files in his office, you marvel
that he managed to research and write the meticulous
90-page document on the possible causes, treatment and
rates of autism that he presented to the health select
committee of the House of Commons last summer.
Since the outset of his research, Thrower has been writing
to ministers and officials at the Department of Health.
At first they responded at length.
"All propaganda and sales talk," says Thrower.
But as his questions became more probing, the replies
became more evasive, and now he doesn't get replies at
all.
Undeterred, he ploughed on, and earlier this month
produced his latest findings, which expose dramatic rises
in autism and the shambolic state of data collection in
the UK. As psychiatrist Dr Lorna Wing, an expert on autism,
made clear in a recent report for the National Autistic
Society:
"There is no central recording by the UK government
and very few epidemiological studies on which to make
informed predictions. The available studies into this
population are infrequent, expensive and problematic."
Thrower, alone in his study, in his own time and at his
own expense, has made a start. Last year, he wrote to 161
organisations - every health authority in this country and
a number of other bodies - asking them whether they
collected data on rates for autism spectrum disorders (ASD
- the technical
term for wide-ranging autistic diagnosis) and what the
data showed.
Just over half replied. Thrower doesn't pretend that his
monitoring was perfect. It was a trawl providing "interesting"
snapshots. "Interesting" is his word: many
people would say alarming.
Of the half who replied, only 17% had any detailed data at
all, 38% had very limited data or were just beginning to
think about setting up monitoring systems and the
remaining 45% had no data whatsoever and no plans to
gather it.
Thrower's research reveals that rates in some districts
are far higher than the already high national prevalence
rate of one in 100. In East Surrey, for example, where an
audit was taken of all three-year-olds in a health trust
district, autism amongst three year old boys was running
at 1 in 69.
Several authorities were uncertain as to whether the climb
in reported cases of ASD was due to better diagnosis or
greater prevalence, but a significant number believed it
to be the latter. Thrower's analysis of statistics from
Bromley Autistic Trust shows that in the 80s they had a
120% rise, with latest figures - for the early 90s -
showing that rise continuing.
In
the Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS trust there was an average annual
increase of 37% of children under five during 1991-6. In Shropshire, the
health authority figures show that while numbers are small they are
rising, from 1-2 new cases per year in 1991 to 4-5 in 1999.
In North Staffordshire, the health trust does has not have exact data but
"has noted a bulge of younger cases in a local school", and in
South Staffordshire the "special school for autistic children has had
to expand provision and is still bursting at the seams".
Of the health authorities that have made the effort to collate information
on autism rates, there is a huge variation in the effort made: West Surrey
concluded that autism was very rare on the basis of a week-long survey in
1998; while Ealing Hammersmith and Hounslow uses data from hospital
admissions.
Wakefield metropolitan district council's education department had done
its own research. It found that until 1992 there were only four or five
autistic children within its boundaries, but that "we now have 111
children diagnosed.
Local diagnosis is rising, particularly among younger children." The
department
adds that of the local education authorities questioned for the report, 31
say numbers amongst pre-school children are "rising rapidly".
Yet
according to Lorna Wing, "although substantially more
children are now being diagnosed as having an autistic
disorder, there are still far too many who are missed".
Thrower isn't seen as a lone nutter: far from it. The NAS
says: "The disparities between neighbouring
authorities revealed in Mr Thrower's findings highlight
the critical need for a central initiative to establish
reliable prevalence rates, and service needs."
This seems to be a restrained way of saying: "What
has Thrower stumbled on here ?"
Something is beginning to give. Three weeks ago there was
the first meeting of the new all-party parliamentary group
on autism, chaired by Thanet South MP Stephen Ladyman, who
says it was Thrower and other parents who kick-started
this new committee. When first alerted to the issues,
Ladyman discovered that not only was there no government
data on autism, but, "The government didn't know it
didn't know."
Oliver Thrower's problems are tragic and insoluble, and
his father worries about what will happen when he and his
partner are no longer around. "It's a massive problem
for everyone: for parents, for the children and for the
caring services in decades to come. If the professionals
don't work out what the rates are and what is causing
autism, if rates continue to rise, the financial burden
will be unimaginable - it could amount to billions."
Thrower's persistence may yet be rewarded. At the first
meeting of the new group, the health minister John Hutton
admitted that basic data is "conspicuously lacking",
adding that the Department of Health might have to go back
and look at the issue again. It's a small victory for the
man in Warrington who wouldn't give up.
Further information: National Autistic Society, 020-7833
2299.
Parent's organisations: JABS, 01942 713565; Allergy
Induced Autism (AIA), 0121-444 6450 or 01733 321771
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Dear Scott and Kylie,
You need to e-mail this to Larry Anthony to show him how
difficult it is for parents.
Regards,Verona
When I received my letter from Centrelink asking me to
prove my child's vaccination, I phoned the Centrelink
helpline to ask where I could obtain an objectors form. I
was told I could get one from my doctor or from the local
Centrelink office. I phoned the doctor, they do not have
any. I went to
the Centrelink office, they do not keep any either. I went
to Medicare, had to queue and ask for one, and the
assistant had to go "out the back" to find one,
returning after five minutes with a form and asking me
"is that it ?"
I don't think she had seen one before ! Luckily my doctor
is aware of my views, and as we have discussed this many
times before, I had no problems getting it signed.
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Fears over 'secret' MMR jabs report By Lorraine Fraser,
Medical Correspondent
The measles vaccine is the focus of renewed controversy
after the Department of Health refused to release a report
claiming to show it is safe.
A US congressional committee investigating autism and
links with vaccines last month asked the author to hand
over the full study, including unpublished data, which has
been criticised by some medical experts.
London professor Brent Taylor, who was giving evidence on
his research, said he would need to discuss this first
with the Department of Health, which funded the work. Now
Public Health Minister Yvette Coooper has told the Commons
it was not 'usual' for 'third parties' to re-analyse such
data. Congressman Dan Burton, who chairs the US committee,
is asking Tony Blair to intercede.
The study by Professor Taylor, of the Royal Free and
University College Medical School, is quoted by
governments to allay parents' worries. It detected a rise
in the number of chgildren with autism in North London,
but said this began before 1998 when MMR became a routine
vaccine. But the
study, published in The Lancet, has been criticised for
not making it clear that older children who were immunised
in a catch-up campaign were included, in which case an
earlier rise in autism rates might be explained.
Walter Spitzer, professor of epidemiology at McGill
University in Montreal, said that the study was 'uninterpretable
due to its inferior scientific quality'. Last month the
Mail on Sunday reported that Dublin pathologist John O'Leary
had found the measles virus in the guts of autistic
children suffering from a bowel disorder.
To:
via@access1.net
NJAICV@aol.com
edmary@fastdial.net
young_doug@email.msn.com
NJCAN@aol.com
zahorodn@umdnj.edu
SPCAPV@onelist.com
autism@maelstrom.stjohns.edu
meryl@avn.org.au
werpave@yahoo.com
l.ruede@tcu.edu
moisuk1@airmail.net
pep@intersurf.com
rdmurray@istar.ca
moira@inow.com
endautism@aol.com
beedle@aol.com
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We had a request for info about the current diphtheria
epidemic in old USSR.
I've sent them some overviews from a web search - "diphtheria
increasing cos not enough vaccination" type stuff. It
seems its probably due to sudden drop in living standards
and probably linked to compulsory vaccination by previous
regime. Wondered if you'd heard anything ?
best wishes, Paddy. In case this helps, I recently
finished reading "The Coming Plague", by
Laurie Garrett, and recalled something about diptheria in
Russia. In my
book, pages 504-505, it says:
Perhaps the most striking example of Russian
Thirdworldisation was the 1993 outbreaks of diptheria in
St Petersburg and Moscow.
A hallmark of the old Soviet Union had been its tremendous
success in universal vaccination and resultant declines in
the incidence of former scourges such as measles, whooping
cough, polio, and diptheria. By 1976 the numbers of
diptheria cases diagnosed in the USSR approaced zero. But
in 1990 dipteria reemerged in Russia, with 1,211 cases
reported from St. Petersburg, Kaliningrad, Orlovskaya, and
Moscow. The epidemic took off, with reported cases and
geographic spread increasing steadily well into 1994. In
1991 nearly 1,900 diptheria cases and 80 deaths were
reported in Russia.
Though the bacterial disease could be treated with
antibiotics, deaths occurred due to the sorry state of the
nation's health care systems. During the summer of 1993,
when nearly 1000 cases were reported in a single month in
Moscow and St. Petersburg, the British government issued
travel advisories recommending that it citizens be
revaccinated prior to travelling in the former USSR.
And the numbers kept rising: between January and August
1993, nearly 6,000 Russians came down with diptheria, 106
died.
There have been massive waves of migration from outlying
rural and rustbelt areas of Russia into Moscow, St.
Petersburg, and, to a lesser degree, Kaliningrad and
Orlovskaya.
Most of the migrants were economic refugees, hoping to
find work in the country's largest cities. But, they soon
discovered quite the opposite, according to Russian
authorities, and many thousands ended up living inside
public transport stations- train depots, airports- in
squalid conditions. Over 40 percent of the diptheria cases
occurred among these homeless.
Diptheria had been virtually eradicated from the United
States because of strict rules about pre-school
vaccination of children with the so-called DTP shots. But
DTP shots had also been meticulously administered in
Russia since the early 1960's. Nearly every new diptheria
case in the country had involved individuals who were
previously vaccinated.
Officials concluded that the vaccine didn't, as previously
thought, work for a lifetime. It might offer less than 5
years' protection against the disease. The reason, they
said, was not a failure of the vaccine, but its success.
It seemed that 30 years of worldwide vaccination had
drastically reduced the numbers of diptheria microbes in
the world, and most people lived their lives never being
naturally being exposed to the bacteria. Natural exposure
in the 1960's, however, acted like booster shots,
constantly rejuvenating lagging immunity: that explained
why health officials had then mistakenly concluded that
the vaccine provided lifetime protection. But by the
1980's most people's immune systems never saw diptheria,
and the natural booster effect didn't take place.
In response to
global concern that the Russian epidemic might spread to other parts of
the former Soviet Union, the Baltic States, or Scandinavia, the Russian
Ministry of Health announced in 1993 a five-year plan to revaccinate up to
90 percent of all the nation'a citizens. Some UN Officials privately
questioned whether the Russians were responding with the proper amount of
urgency and haste: a handful of diptheria cases were reported during the
summer of 1993 in Finland and the Baltic States.
Still other skeptics
questioned the wisdom of a mass adult vaccination campaign in Russia, given the country's acute shortage of syringes.
Considering
the lesson of Elista, they asked, might such an effort
only hasten emergence of blood-borne microbes, such as
hepatitis B and HIV ?
I think "Elista" might refer to a case when
well-meaning missionaries ran a very underfunded slip of a
hospital in a desperately poor community, maybe in Africa
somewhere, and by recycling syringes, they infected many
people, including children with a deadly disease, (perhaps
AIDS).
I was totally incredulous when I read the above. Now,I see
it as a piece of tragic comedy. It seems the diseases
themselves are the reason vaccines work so well. Standard
of living has nothing to do with it. Maybe they should
deliberately spread diptheria every five years to make
sure everyone who is vaccinated remains immune to it. With
any luck, they will also wipe out the stubborn
non-vaccinators.
I have a healthy, beautiful and totally unvaccinated
toddler. She had rubella about a year ago, and didn't seem
to feel it.
She had a temperature and a rash, and was a bit clingy,
otherwise she ate, slept and played like normal.
But the doctor concluded that she didn't have a serious
enough case to get proper immunity, cleverly implying two
things: that rubella is a lot more dangerous than this
looks, and that it is definitely still worth getting her
vaccinated. Of course.
Can someone tell me how she could possiby know how much
immunity my dughter gained from her attack, just by
looking at her for five minutes ? Isn't it possible that
by not compromising her immune system with vaccines, that
she was more easily able to fight off the rubella ? And
isn't rubella supposed to be a mild disease anyway ?
Marina
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Diphtheria - by Hilary Butler
Common environmental factors throughout history which have
greatly increased the incidence and severity of diphtheria
are shown in the following quotes:
"There is no doubt that exposure to sewage emanation
is a fruitful source of diphtheria...the statistics of the
association between the two are very positive."
(Quain 1894, in Beddow-Bayly, 1939, p.105).
".shows in interesting and conclusive fashion the
definitive effect of school buildings, their construction
and sanitation, on the spread of diphtheria. The
highest incidence was observed in those schools where
sanitation is most deficient and ventilation and lighting
the least satisfactory. The brightest and airiest
school showed the lowest incidence, and the incidence
throughout all the schools placed them in exact order of
sanitary virtue. Moreover, the incidence indicated
the schools where malnutrition in the children is most
conspicuous." (Medical World, 1931, p. 627.)
Even in America, there were those who recognised the
lessons of the decrease of diphtheria prior to the use of
a vaccine by saying:
"The eradication of diphtheria will not come through
the serum treatment of patients, by the immunization of
the well, or through the accurate clinical and laboratory
diagnosis of the case and the carrier followed by
quarantine; rather it will be attained through the mass
sanitary protection of the populace subconsciously
practised by the people at all times."
(JAMA, 1922, p. 682.)
With regard to diphtheria in New Zealand, it is
interesting in the light of the recent Auckland case, to
note that during the period 1879 - 85, diphtheria in the
Christchurch area was particularly severe. The
majority of cases occurred in areas where there were
either no sewers, or where the sewerage systems had grave
sanitary defects.
The water supplies were heavily contaminated, and the
living conditions were beyond description. (Maclean,
1964).
Why is the issue of sewage important? There are many
historical instances of sewage being relevant to the
spread of disease, but even today very few textbooks
mention this. A few days before the recent Auckland
case, storm water had flooded the sewer system, resulting
in raw sewage flowing onto the property of the family
concerned.
The Public Health Authority refused to investigate this
potential causal factor. It could well be that the
case had nothing to do with the parents' holiday in Bali,
and everything to do with the presence of diphtheria from
North Shore carriers in the sewage. Two years ago
the Americans discovered that toxicogenic diphtheria has
had continual undetected circulation for decades
throughout areas in the United States and Canada. It
remained undetected because they never looked for it,
assuming it was eradicated.
The same situation could quite likely exist here.
The recent Russian epidemic was caused, we were told, by
low levels of childhood immunity (WHO, July 1993).
But the majority of cases were in adults who had gone
through a compulsory vaccination system that mandated 5
injections of diphtheria vaccine. According to the
old philosophy, these people should have been immune for
life. They now realise that immunity to disease
requires 2 things: repeat exposure to antigen, and a
healthy, stress-free body.
Why do they say the epidemic was caused by inadequate
childhood vaccination? By 1993, the situation was
quite different and diphtheria is only now significantly
reduced.
"Reported nationwide coverage among children aged
12-23 months increased from 72.6% in 1992 to 79.2% in
1993.
During 1992-1993 at least 90% of children <5 years had
received a primary series with diphtheria and tetanus
toxoids and pertussis vaccine (DTP), or pediatric (DTY) or
adult (Td) formulation diphtheria and tetanus toxoids, and
approximately 80%, had received at least one booster."
(MMWR, 1995, pg. 178).
Immunisation in Russia in the communist era was compulsory
for children, with contraindications determined by the
medical profession, not the parents. With 'perestroika'
and choice, there was the start of anti-vaccine movement,
led, ironically, by doctors not laypeople, which
contributed to a slight fall in the vaccination levels.
But these levels were still higher than those reported for
the USA in 1990 and for Australia in 1995.
In the USA, they are at last admitting that there are
several other factors involved in the Russian diphtheria
epidemic.
This is because high level transmission between adults was
demonstrated in groups characterized by overcrowding, low
hygiene levels, and high contact rates e.g.: the homeless
and patients in neuropsychiatric hospitals (Vitek and
Wharton).
One important factor conducive to increased bacterial
transmission was the deficient or lacking public health
facilities, including routine access to functioning
faucets for hand washing.
The other group looked at was the military, because 1.4%
of Russia is armed. Recruits (who have already had 5
vaccinations - 3 primary doses, a 4th at about 2 yrs, and
a 5th at 6 yrs; after 1980 Td was given at 11 yrs of age)
were not revaccinated against diphtheria until 1990.
Following outbreaks of diphtheria spread by the military
in Kovrov District in 1983 and 1987, investigations in
military units in various parts of Russia found carrier
rates of toxigenic diptheria of up to 5.0%.
There is nothing unusual about high rates of disease in
military establishments. Extensive reading of
military medical literature reveals some fairly callous
reports about the necessity for toughening up recruits so
that they have immunity to everything, and in the event of
real stress, real war, they are unlikely to succumb.
In reality the majority of diphtheria in Russia has
occurred in specific sub-groups. Refugees or persons
displaced by internal conflict, the homeless, alcoholics,
the military, and people living hand to mouth attempting
to feed children.
A very high proportion of cases were in women, a factor
not well understood by the medical fraternity, but
self-evident to those with common sense. Women (mothers)
will feed the rest of the family before themselves.
Interestingly though, one study reports that the death
rate has been excessive in only one group - that of
alcoholics. Their death rate was 25.7%, compared
with the death rate of "normal" Russians of
around 1%, despite the stresses associated with life in
Russia.
The myth that vaccination is the primary factor that
eliminated diphtheria worldwide is highlighted by the
evolving situation in Russia (and other countries) today.
Graphs of diphtheria from any country show what are called
"epidemic cycles".
The latest Russian cycle is the normal duration for cycles
seen pre-vaccination era; so to say that vaccination has
stopped diphtheria in Russia is highly debatable.
The Lancet (1996) reported that in 1995 the Ukraine had
re-vaccinated the entire population and that diphtheria
continued unabated. The vaccine was tested and found
to be fine.
Medical literature has always recognised that social and
economic dislocation has been the primary friend of
diphtheria, along with other diseases. Literature
published before the dissolution of stability in Russia
makes that clear:]
"A serious dislocation of the economy or society of
the United States might well increase the incidence of
diphtheria as well as other infectious diseases."
(Biol. and Clinic. Basis of Infect.Dis, 1985, pg. 230).
DECLINE
OF DIPHTHERIA IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES:
The most recent textbook states:
"The dramatically changing incidence of diphtheria
during the past decades in developed countries is at least
partially the result of widespread childhood immunization
although a full explanation is not clear." (Pathology
1997 p. 534)
It is my opinion that the decline of diphtheria in
developed countries (including New Zealand) is directly
correlated to poverty, social conditions, nutrition,
sanitation etc.
Those who know the nutritional history of Europe and Great
Britain will recall the many campaigns against such things
as rickets. In 1933, 30+ of children who attended
one English well-to-do toddlers' clinic were definitely
rachitic (Lancet, May 18, 1933, pg. 1189.). The
Lancet also reported on February 2nd of that year, that
rickets could be detected in not less than 50+ of those
who attended infant welfare centres countrywide. And
this was supposedly an improvement! Diphtheria and
other diseases rose and fell in direct relation to housing,
nutritional improvement and wartime conditions, a factor
taken into little account by those who consider
vaccination to be the only relevant sacrament. The
return of conditions of social dislocation and poverty
will see an increase in all diseases which, under times of
duress, have no respect for the vaccination status of
anyone.
Four separate studies done in 1934, 1935, and 1937, found
that Vitamin C had the power to neutralise, inactivate and
render harmless diphtheria toxins.
In 1934, the unusual resistance of the mouse to diphtheria
infections was attributed to its ability to synthesize
rapidly its own ascorbic acid, while the guinea pig's
ready susceptibility to the disease (like man's) was
attributed to its inability to replenish its store of
ascorbic acid. Not one of these revelations was even
considered by the medical hierarchy, even though yet
another study in the Lancet (1937) reported that:
"Infected patients appear to be in a condition of
relative "unsaturation" with respect to the
vitamin."
And that
".diphtheria toxin, which, as is well known, causes
extensive injury to the supra-renal glands, at the same
time brings about a diminution in their vitamin C content.
Apart from these investigations, little methodical work on
the influence of toxins on the vitamin-C content of the
body tissues seems to have been hitherto attempted."
However, they did note that ".the infections cause
the disappearance of a considerable proportion of Vitamin
C reserves, whether they were high or low, and not merely
of a fixed arithmetical difference". No
consideration was given to the therapeutical benefits of
replacing Vitamin C, or using it as the known antitoxin it
had already proved to be. It appears that at this
point, the medical hierarchy put a stop to any further
related research.
Following this work, there were huge numbers of studies
done on Vitamin C, with all of them using Vitamin C only
in the context of a Vitamin, rather than therapeutically
as an "antibiotic". Trials of megadoses
were discouraged, especially when funded by pharmaceutical
companies who could neither patent, nor make money out of
it. However, many doctors used vitamin C for
treating all toxin-mediated diseases, as per the original
research, with very successful results that they could
only report in the lay press. Except for one of the
most outspoken ones, Dr Fred Klenner.
Dr Klenner got much of his research and case studies
published in the Tri-State Medical Journal in U.S.A (and a
few others). Having read all the information
available on the action and use of Vitamin C, I have no
doubt whatsoever that Vitamin C could treat diphtheria far
more successfully than antitoxin, and without the huge
risks that come with a foreign product made in horses.
I also believe it would allow the development of naturally
induced immunity.
Dr Klenner (1957) made one of the most telling comments
when recounting his successes with Vitamin C:
"But then there are some physicians who would stand
by and see their patient die rather than use ascorbic acid
- because in their finite minds it exists only as a
vitamin."
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We often hear
reports blaming low vaccination coverage for the outbreak
in the USSR. But the below article suggests this is not
the case.A snip from the full-text of the below article
"However, an estimated 90% of children were fully
vaccinated with four or more doses of diphtheria toxoid by
the time they entered school."
If I'm not mistaken, 90% would probably be higher than
vaccination coverage levels in Australia. And yet we don't
have mass outbreaks of Diptheria. Poor Adult vaccination
status is also blamed, but adult boosters of diptheria in
developed countries are always notoriously low.
Methinks
this has more to do with political and social upheaval,
poverty, unsanitary conditions etc..
Seb.
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http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00022128.htm
MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep 1993 Nov
5;42(43):840-1,847
Diphtheria
outbreak--Russian Federation, 1990-1993.
Despite high levels of vaccination coverage against
diphtheria, an ongoing outbreak of diphtheria
has affected parts of the Russian Federation since 1990;
as of August 31, 1993, 12,865 cases had been reported.
This report summarizes epidemiologic information about
this outbreak for
January 1990-August 1993, and is based on reports from
public health officials in the Russian
Federation.
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The Lancet
Volume 353, Number 9150 30 January 1999
Risk
of diphtheria among schoolchildren in the Russian
Federation in relation to time since last vaccination
Quote:
In 1993, the Russian Federation reported 15229 cases of
diphtheria, a 25-fold increase over the 603
cases reported in 1989.1 The incidence rate among children
7-10 years of age (15·7 per 100000)
was twice that of adults aged 18 years or over (7·9 per
100000).4 81% of the affected children
aged 7-10 years had been vaccinated with at least a
primary series of diphtheria toxoid, and most
had received the first booster recommended to be given 12
months after completion of the primary
series.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10326290&dopt=Abstract
Br
Med Bull 1998;54(3):635-45
Resurgent
diphtheria--are we safe ?
Eskola J, Lumio J, Vuopio-Varkila J National Public Health
Institute, Helsinki, Finland.
Diphtheria, one of the major causes of morbidity and
mortality in the past, seemed
nearly eliminated from industrialized countries, thanks to
improved hygienic conditions and large scale vaccinations.
In 1990, a large epidemic started in Eastern
Europe, mainly in Russia and Ukraine, with over 70,000
cases reported within a 5 year
period. The main factors leading to the epidemic
included low immunization coverage among infants and
children, waning immunity to diphtheria among adults, and
profound social changes in the
former Soviet Union.
The possibility of new virulence factors in the epidemic
strain has not yet been
ruled out. Even though immunity among adults is far from
complete in Western Europe, the
epidemic did not spread there. The main reason for
this might be the good immune status of children
and lack of social turbulence favouring the spread of
infection.
Several countries have also taken preventive measures,
which may also have played a role in protection against
the potential epidemic.
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